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Re: David BOWIE

Messagepar yenyen » 11 Jan 2016, 20:53

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Re: David BOWIE

Messagepar Algernon » 11 Jan 2016, 22:46

David Bowie, by those who knew him best
His first wife Angie Bowie, movie co-star Candy Clark, guitarist Carlos Alomar and producer Nile Rodgers are among those who remember Bowie in all his glorious guises
David Bowie, by those who knew him best
By Steve Turner
Monday 11 January 2016 at 8:53AM

This article originally appeared in Radio Times magazine in May 2013
1. The young rock star
Bowie on Bowie "I wasn't surprised that Ziggy Stardust made my career. I packaged a totally credible plastic rock star - much better than any Monkee's fabrication. My plastic rocker was much more plastic that anybody's"
Angie Bowie - His first wife (1970—80)
“If you provided an artist with a big beautiful work space and then gave them paints and canvases you’d be a little bit surprised if after eight weeks they’d created nothing, wouldn’t you? It’s the perfect creative environment. That’s what happened to David when we moved to Haddon Hall in Beckenham. Tony Visconti built a rehearsal studio in the basement and the band was brought down from Hull to live with us.
“Ziggy Stardust was a natural extension of what he’d been doing. He was not only surrounded by the idea of space exploration because of Nasa’s Apollo missions but also had his own sense of being an alien because he was coming out of folk music and working in rock. All of his characters were extensions of Ziggy – Aladdin Sane, the Thin White Duke, Diamond Dogs – they’re all the same. It was the gradual destructive chaos of Ziggy Stardust floating through the galaxy getting nuttier and nuttier.
"It wasn't that I had a ringside seat to all this. I was the ringmaster. You can't have a star performer without a ringmaster to organise it. We did something totally and utterly new and unheard of and different and fabulous and entertaining, and caught the imagination of Europe and then the world. I like it when a plan works."

Ken Scott - Bowie’s co-producer (1971—73)
“He was a really nice guy and had a certain amount of talent, but a superstar? It was only when David, Angie and his publisher Bob Grace came to my house to go through material for Hunky Dory that the light bulb went off. I realised he was far more talented than I’d given him credit for.
“At this time he was getting his image together, but I don’t remember seeing it overnight. As a person, however, I didn’t see him change during the time I spent working with him. The only difference was that he gained in confidence. The time he changed was during the Diamond Dogs tour in 1974. As far as I am aware he didn’t do drugs up until that time. Then I heard rumours that he’d started using cocaine and, typical of his personality, he got into it very strongly.
“I think his greatest talent is his voice. Of the four albums I did with him, 95 per cent of the vocals were done in one complete first take. I had never worked with an artist like that before and I haven’t since. His vocals aren’t perfect but they’re pure emotion. There was one track where he was bawling his eyes out at the end. That comes across to the listening public and that’s why even people today feel so strongly about him.”

2. The film star
Bowie on Bowie "There are very few who have broken out of rock and into any other medium, especially
film. I’m determined to do it. The media should be used. You can’t let it use you"
Candy Clark - Co-star, the Man Who fell to Earth (1976)
“I got to know David professionally but not socially. When we were filming in New Mexico he brought an entourage and they all stayed at another hotel. He had his own driver, an assistant called Coco and various women who came and went. Then his wife Angie came over. Off set, he basically spent all his time with familiar people with whom he felt comfortable.
“David was so easy to act with, but I was surprised that he could be practically half-naked on stage doing his concerts, and then, when we had to do these love scenes for the film, with only a couple of people in the room, I could tell he was uptight. I was uptight, too, but I’m not an exhibitionist.
“I always felt he could be from another planet. He was thin and angular, kind of spider-like. He had beautiful, translucent skin, great bone structure and red hair. He even brought his own Clairol hair dye with him.”

3. The Berlin Years
Bowie on Bowie "For many years Berlin has appealed to me as a sort of sanctuary. I was going broke and it was a cheap place to live. For some reason, Berliners just didn't care. Well, not about an English rock singer, anyway"
Carlos Alomar - Guitarist
“Young Americans [1975] was so successful that David’s record company wanted more of the same. They thought the soul thing was happening and that he should build on it. That drove him the other way. Anyone would leave the country under that pressure! He needed to clear his brain.
“David had always taught us that to get the most out of somebody you need to take them away from their environment and put them in a place where they don’t know anyone. The idea was that then you’d have nothing else to do but think about the music. There was nowhere to go. That’s how we ended up recording Heroes [1977] in Berlin.
“I’d showed him around New York back in 1974 and now it was his turn to show me around Berlin. He he introduced me to Kraftwerk and the city’s underground music, and he took me to Romy Haag’s place, which was great – transvestites and music, a whole cabaret scene just like out of a movie.
"The tracks were created from scratch in the studio. Brian Eno had a set of cards that he would shuffle and ask us to pick from. Each one had a printed instruction on the face. It might say 'Take the predictable and make it unpredictable” or “You have just come home from the war” and you had to play something inspired by that idea or that feeling. It enabled you to create something out of nothing.
“When you’re recording with David you’ve no idea what it’s going to be. The songs are built up in sections so all you have is an instrumental with a working title. After we leave, the specialists with lead guitar and synthesizer come in and develop the record. Finally, David lays down his vocal. When the record is released, I get sent a copy. It’s only then that I hear it as a complete song.”

4. The stage star
Bowie on Bowie "I am an actor. My whole professional life is an act. I slip from one guise to another very easily."
Bowie and guest at the opening of The Elephant Man
Jack Hofsiss - Directed Bowie in The Elephant Man (1980-81)
“It’s rare to find very successful people who dare to do things outside their comfort zone. At some point they tend to stick to playing the same role over and over again even though it’s bad for their art.
“What impressed me about David was his hard work and discipline, which was the antithesis of what you expect of a rock star. The way the production is structured the character of the Elephant Man never leaves the stage, although he is not in all the scenes. The play was running when John Lennon was killed and after the shooting, I offered to re-block it and take him off stage between scenes. I was worried about copycat killings of celebrities, especially
rock stars, and I didn’t want to aid the possibility. David refused to let me do that, which I thought was pretty remarkable.
“It’s easy to see what we gained from having a star of his calibre take over the lead role. We were over a year into the Broadway run and the excitement of having him was absolute manna to the producers. What was in it for David? The ideal answer would be that he learnt something about himself. As one attempts to portray someone else over a long period of time, there is the potential of discovering new aspects of oneself.”

5. The global superstar
Bowie on Bowie "I’m quite happy to find myself involved with clichés at this time. There’s not a small amount of truth in clichés. They spring from some eternal truth"
Nile Rodgers - Bowie's co-producer Let's Dance (1983)
David is a frustrated jazz musician so it wasn’t weird that he contacted me to produce Let’s Dance, because we both loved jazz. In retrospect it was probably a very bold move, but he never seemed compelled to do what he thought people wanted him to do.
“When we did the record neither he nor I had record deals – he financed Let’s Dance himself. That was probably the greatest thing that could have happened because we didn’t have to answer to anyone. It was he and I against the world. Let’s Dance did exactly what David wanted it to do. The fact that it’s the biggest record of his career is not an accident : it’s what he wanted.”
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Re: David BOWIE

Messagepar Chien de feu » 11 Jan 2016, 23:01

Avec le recul il parait à peu près évident que BOWIE annonçait dans la chanson Lazarus et dans le clip son proche départ vers d'autres rivages , un

dernier message à l' attention de ses fans une sorte de testament.

Tout dans l'atmosphère , les paroles , le clip le présentant alité semble l'indiquer .

Aurait il controlé sa mort prochaine lui qui voulait tout controler . Aussi le fait de tirer sa révérence 2 jours après la sortie de son ultime album le

jour de son anniversaire

Les paroles de Lazarus :

Look up here, I'm in heaven
Regarde là-haut, je suis au Paradis.
I've got scars that can't be seen
J'ai des cicatrices que l'on ne voit pas.
I've got drama, can't be stolen
J'ai traversé de difficiles épreuves. Je me refuse de l'admettre.
Everybody knows me now
Tout le monde me connaît à présent.

Look up here, man, I'm in danger
Regarde là-haut, je suis en danger.
I've got nothing left to lose
Je n'ai plus rien à perdre.
I'm so high, it makes my brain whirl
Je suis si haut que mon cerveau tourbillonne.
Dropped my cell phone down below
J'ai laissé tomber mon téléphone portable en contrebas...
Ain't that just like me ?
Ça me ressemble bien , non


By the time I got to New York
Au moment où je suis arrivé à New York,
I was living like a king
je vivais comme un roi,
Then I used up all my money
C'est là que j'ai claqué tout mon argent...
I was looking for your ass
C'est ton cul que je cherchais.

This way or no way
Ce sera ça ou rien.
You know I'll be free
Tu sais que je serai libre
Just like that bluebird
comme cet oiseau bleu.
Now, ain't that just like me ?
À présent, ça me ressemble bien, non ?

Oh, I'll be free
Oh, je serai libre
Just like that bluebird
comme cet oiseau bleu.
Oh, I'll be free
Oh, je serai libre...
Ain't that just like me ?
Ça me ressemble bien, non ?
Ah ! Qu'il est doux de ne rien faire - Quand tout s'agite autour de nous !"

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Re: David BOWIE

Messagepar Manoueel » 11 Jan 2016, 23:25

Je viens de voir une belle phrase du Monde diplomatique qui vise Bowie.

"L’existence est toujours un exil, d’où qu’on vienne, reste la consolation de la chanter."
Lors d'une émission, un vétéran de la Seconde Guerre mondiale avec une jambe de bois, assez agressif, l'interpella: Si j'en juge par vos cheveux longs, vous êtes une fille ? et Zappa répondit: Et si j'en juge par votre jambe de bois, vous êtes une table ?
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Re: David BOWIE

Messagepar Chien de feu » 12 Jan 2016, 21:01

Le tout premier enregistrement de David BOWIE en 1964 sous le nom de Davie JONES and The KING BEES


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[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_ET9L9JWFs[/video]



[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcKZl0EYhVI[/video]

2 morceaux de Ryhm&Blues qui préfigurent ce que les BEATLES feront quelques mois plus tard

Par contre on a du mal à reconnaitre la voix qu'on lui connait
Ah ! Qu'il est doux de ne rien faire - Quand tout s'agite autour de nous !"

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Re: David BOWIE

Messagepar Witchy Cow » 12 Jan 2016, 23:25

Soirée spéciale Bowie sur Arte demain. Film, émissions, concert.

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Re: David BOWIE

Messagepar Algernon » 13 Jan 2016, 10:20

[quote="Chien de feu"]Avec le recul il parait à peu près évident que BOWIE annonçait dans la chanson Lazarus et dans le clip son proche départ vers d'autres rivages , un dernier message à l' attention de ses fans une sorte de testament.
Comme Michel Delpech, mais pour notre chanteur populaire, nous nous préparions. 69 ans.
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Re: David BOWIE

Messagepar Bebeto » 14 Jan 2016, 02:27

Touché par la disparition de Bowie bien plus que je ne l'aurais pensé.
Voici quelques jours que je passe en revue sa discographie, 70's surtout.
Je n'aime pas tout chez lui, loin de là, bouh les chansons à sax (sur Young Americans, par exemple), mais quand il tape, c'est dans le mille.

Son chant est unique, techniquement approximatif, le souffle fragile, mais qui ne l'empêche pas de se risquer à des petites acrobaties, ses aigus me crispent, ses mélodies assez inattendues dans le monde de la pop, faites parfois de rupture de ton, parfois comme décalées, à la limite de l'expérimentation, déjouant souvent les attentes de l'auditeur.

Sa voix a très bien vieilli, ses graves magnifiques me faisant penser à un Scott Walker moins radical, notamment. Je suivais les sorties en espérant qu'il ponde le disque hors du temps dont je rêvais longtemps. Selon mon point de vue, Il a essayé de survivre à son succès de Let's Dance ou à sa furie créatrice des 70's, sans parvenir à un résultat qui me satisfasse pleinement, même si je lui reconnais ses tentatives.

Pablitta a raison (beau texte à ce sujet ma chère !), il semble venir d'ailleurs, les cinéastes (Roeg, T. Scott pour les Prédateurs), lui-même, ont joué avec ce physique, une beauté ambiguë, à la fois objet de désir et qui me paraît presque asexuée, en tout cas jamais vulgaire, et élégante, tout comme l'homme le paraissait tout aussi d'ailleurs, un peu le pendant d'un Helmut Berger musical. Étonnant d'ailleurs que Visconti n'ait pas fait appel à lui (enfin il y eut Oshima pour Furyo).
Perso, je le percevais comme un Dorian Gray ou encore un Faust qui aurait pactisé non pas avec une force obscure et malveillante mais avec une toute puissance créatrice pour qu'il lui serve d'intermédiaire.

Rarement un artiste aura autant été adulé par les hommes comme par les femmes. Vu en concert, c'est fou l'enchantement qu'il provoque.

Mon hommage n'est pas une de ses chansons mais celle d'une de ses copines, Dana Gillespie. Elle tourne beaucoup en ce moment et me fait invariablement penser à ce très cher disparu.
Never Knew
http://www106.zippyshare.com/v/IQy5mb6Q/file.html

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But my muse was out fucking in gutters all night long"
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Re: David BOWIE

Messagepar Algernon » 14 Jan 2016, 09:01

J'ai découvert récemment (deux ans environ) qu'elle avait interprété "Andy Warhol", et là j'en apprends plus.

http://www.illustrated-db-discography.nl/bowpromo.htm

Andy Warhol: originally written by David for Dana Gillespie, musically backed by The Spiders and produced by Bowie/Ronson. This is a quite different, shorter mix (2'45" vs 3'02"), compared to what appeared on Weren't Born A Man. The intro is faded in and the mix is more direct and less echoey than on that album. The outro on the BOWPROMO also is much shorter and less guitar-heavy. This mix has recently been released on Oh! You Pretty Things, though on that CD it is (incorrectly) mastered at a faster speed, resulting in a higher pitch (2'45" vs 2'37").
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Re: David BOWIE

Messagepar Unserious Sam » 14 Jan 2016, 09:50

Dana Gillespie - Andy Warhol.mp3
http://www98.zippyshare.com/v/R7aN9efd/file.html


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Re: David BOWIE

Messagepar Algernon » 14 Jan 2016, 14:23

Bebeto a écrit:
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L'espace d'un instant, j'ai cru qu'il avait posé à côté de Lemmy (voir autre topique) :jesors:
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Re: David BOWIE

Messagepar yenyen » 14 Jan 2016, 15:46

Avec toutes ses conneries, j'ai encore moins d'espoir de dénicher un jour mon Graal :

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Re: David BOWIE

Messagepar Roulie » 14 Jan 2016, 15:55

Ah oui elle est super cette version.
J'aimerais bien tomber dessus aussi.
Mais jamais vu. Même sur discogs il n'y a pas d'exemplaires en vente.
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Re: David BOWIE

Messagepar Algernon » 14 Jan 2016, 21:25

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Re: David BOWIE

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